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Discussions vs Debates

Why I hate debates, like discussions, and how you can avoid looking like a perfect ass when having one.

Being an academically inclined person, I enjoy spending my time sharing and refining my ideas with other people. However, I often find people making asses of themselves (for various reasons), which seems to result in the productive discussion becoming a ridiculous debate. So I've decided to help you by showing how to not let this happen to you!

First, however, I should digress a tad and briefly bore you with what I mean by a discussion and a debate (as I may not be using the same definitions as you). That way, you don't get lost and confused (possibly resulting in your wandering off and running into a parked car, denting it, and subsequently having to pay a hefty repair bill, because I'm not paying that bill for you). Anyway, I promise the diversion will be relatively painless.

I'm going to do this by example, because examples are less painful than dry definitions. Suppose two people are talking about cats and dogs, and which is the smarter animal. And, to help make things clearer, we'll say that Lisa Loeb and Drew Barrymore are the ones having this discussion. (This has the added benefit of allowing the male (or lesbian) readers of this rant to fantasize about Drew--but not Lisa, I have dibs on her--when they get bored.) Let's also say that they are having this debate in my living room. (If they don't have their hypothetical debate in my hypothetical living room, then how can I hypothetically hear the hypothetical conversation?) Anyway, Lisa, having two cats of her own, claims that cats are very smart and sophisticated animals, and that dogs are the dumb and dirty animals. However Drew very much disagrees: Her dog is very intelligent and loving (indeed Flossie saved her and Tom Green from being burned to death in a house fire). Furthermore, Drew believes that cats are quite dumb creatures in comparison. (I should note that this rant doesn't necessarily reflect Drew's thoughts on our feline friends, nor Lisa's feelings on our canine friends. I said it was a hypothetical discussion!)

The dogs vs cats statement, of course, sparks a big debate between them. Over the course of the debate, many things are said and many tales of smart cats, dumb cats, smart dogs, and dumb dogs are flung at one another. In the end, however, neither of them is willing to budge from their original points of view, and Lisa, in utter frustration, leaves the room to find something else to do.

Of course, this makes both Lisa and Drew look like grumpy old conservatives who wouldn't admit they are wrong if you poked them in the eyes with sporks until they bled spam! I mean, who can respect people who are so closed minded? I certainly can't. They just seem like bitter old fools who would rather bloat their own egos than learn about the world they live in. Ironically, someone who can see through their game will think they are being perfect asses because they are so worried about their egos that they can't do anything slightly productive. On top of that, since their debate was only being marginally productive, much time and energy was lost in the attempted beating of the one another into submission. Who wants to be like that? I certainly don't! Is it far better to improve ones knowledge and understanding than to drastically fail at trying to save face.

So what if, instead of letting their debating tactic be driven by their emotional attachments and their egos, they were both willing to admit when they are wrong? They would be free to express their thoughts and ideas without worry of if they were proved wrong. Thus, the energy that was spent beating eachother into submission would instead be used to teach eachother things about the world they live in. Indeed, they hopefully would even arrive at a whole new understanding of the subject that neither Lisa nor Drew had ever conceived of on their own. Thus is the magic of an academic discussion. Time and energy is spent on problem solving, solutions, and understanding, instead of egos, greed, and emotional outbursts.

Now don't get me wrong. Debates do have their place. They work well for politics and court rooms. But these are places where people aren't so interested in producing mutually agreeable solutions so much as to proving why their own side is the only correct way of thinking.

So this brings me back to where I started: What can you do during a discussion in order to prevent yourself from looking like an ego driven ass? I have come up with ten simple rules, which have come from both my own mistakes, and those of others, that will serve you as an excellent guide to being an effective intellectual discusser:

And here you have it, my sort of ten commandments of discussions. If you follow these, the likelihood that you'll look foolish to your peers during a discussion (read "make an ass of yourself in front of your friends") will be much, much lower. Also, for the debater types out there, remember that although you might think you are coming away looking like a winner who stands up for what you believe in, odds are you're going away looking like a stubborn loser who has ego issues.

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